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	<title>Comments on: Old Skool Rulez</title>
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	<description>Ramblings of Jim Whiteside, and some good old Norfolk squit.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 09:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
		<link>http://povich.co.uk/blog/2008/03/old-skool-rulez/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I hear that.  Django's definitely something to play with for a while before doing anything real with it.  Hosting django stuff on the same server as mod_php is a barrel of laughs too.  I'm not actually writing any code for moblog2, my rsi has seen to that - we've had to employ a developer.

That makes me a technical project manager.  I'm writing lots of specs and doing no hacking.  Exactly what I didn't want to be doing!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hear that.  Django&#8217;s definitely something to play with for a while before doing anything real with it.  Hosting django stuff on the same server as mod_php is a barrel of laughs too.  I&#8217;m not actually writing any code for moblog2, my rsi has seen to that - we&#8217;ve had to employ a developer.</p>
<p>That makes me a technical project manager.  I&#8217;m writing lots of specs and doing no hacking.  Exactly what I didn&#8217;t want to be doing!  <img src='http://povich.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jaydublu</title>
		<link>http://povich.co.uk/blog/2008/03/old-skool-rulez/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>jaydublu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm aware of django, and it does look like the mutts nuts, but not right for me at the moment. First I haven't time for the learning curve, and then there's the potential hosting problems - I'm still maintaining http://www.happisburgh.org.uk/ which is currently a Zope site although I'm going to have to rebuild it soon in PHP because I can't justify keeping a dedicated server going just for that site. I want to get back to economical shared hosting.

I can see that it could well be the way to go for apps like moblog, but for (relatively) simple sites the point I'm making is that you really can't beat old skool PHP.

You know me - I'll come round to your point of view eventually, but I have to do it in my own time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m aware of django, and it does look like the mutts nuts, but not right for me at the moment. First I haven&#8217;t time for the learning curve, and then there&#8217;s the potential hosting problems - I&#8217;m still maintaining <a href="http://www.happisburgh.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.happisburgh.org.uk/</a> which is currently a Zope site although I&#8217;m going to have to rebuild it soon in PHP because I can&#8217;t justify keeping a dedicated server going just for that site. I want to get back to economical shared hosting.</p>
<p>I can see that it could well be the way to go for apps like moblog, but for (relatively) simple sites the point I&#8217;m making is that you really can&#8217;t beat old skool PHP.</p>
<p>You know me - I&#8217;ll come round to your point of view eventually, but I have to do it in my own time.</p>
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		<title>By: mat</title>
		<link>http://povich.co.uk/blog/2008/03/old-skool-rulez/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you looked at &lt;a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;django&lt;/a&gt; at all?  That's what Zope should have been - all the power of python with much less of the confusion.  It's well nice, we're using it for moblog's next version.

You might be interested to know that since leaving Soup I wrote a text-only CMS-like utility for moblog - allows in-page editing/creation of boilerplate text for admin-level users.  It's 14 lines of PHP, the whole thing.  You'd like it.  It's about the cleverest bit of PHP I've ever written, if I do say so myself.

One thing I meant to ask - did you take a copy of daisy's password generator source code before you left?  I still use that thing y'know - and people I make passwords for always comment on how good they are.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="nofollow">django</a> at all?  That&#8217;s what Zope should have been - all the power of python with much less of the confusion.  It&#8217;s well nice, we&#8217;re using it for moblog&#8217;s next version.</p>
<p>You might be interested to know that since leaving Soup I wrote a text-only CMS-like utility for moblog - allows in-page editing/creation of boilerplate text for admin-level users.  It&#8217;s 14 lines of PHP, the whole thing.  You&#8217;d like it.  It&#8217;s about the cleverest bit of PHP I&#8217;ve ever written, if I do say so myself.</p>
<p>One thing I meant to ask - did you take a copy of daisy&#8217;s password generator source code before you left?  I still use that thing y&#8217;know - and people I make passwords for always comment on how good they are.  <img src='http://povich.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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